Friday, October 2, 2009

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I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why they didn't think of this YEARS ago!!  Glad to see some positive encouragement for bowel cleansing with irrigations instead of those NASTY chemical laxatives!!

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Thursday, October 1, 2009

[bowelcleanse] RE: (Colon-hydrotherapy & Relaxation) Wall St Journal article on colon cleansing

 

Thanks Edie for your heads up on this article. Naturally, this is a topic
close to my heart (admittedly a different part of the human anatomy ;-).
Thanks, too, Top Squirrel for posting the link. I'm not a subscriber to
the wsj, but I had no trouble reading the article from the link.

I guess I'm not surprised at the inability of either Melinda Beck or the
Wall Street Journal to think outside of the box enough to question the
status quo on the point of colon hydrotherapy, but it's nice to see the
topic getting some air time. You can tell from the comments of the readers
that the subscribers to the wsj aren't very out-of-the-box kinds of
thinkers. Healthy bodies are "self-cleaning" as well, and we don't think
twice about showering in spite of the lack of "peer reviewed" studies ;-).

I agree whole-heartedly with both of you on your points. I also would like
to add that the human body is such a mystery, I'm not sure we're ever going
to understand all of the effects colonics have, but one thing for sure is
that they do indeed have effects. Just because evidence is anecdotal does
not make it invalid. Dispelling a modality on the basis of NO peer
reviewed material is rather short sighted given the persistence - both in
duration as well as popularity - of the practice amongst many highly
intelligent individuals. After all, it is mentioned in the earliest of
medical texts (the Ebers Papyrus) and has remained a viable treatment for a
plethora of conditions ever since.

It's a shame Ms. Beck didn't find this most thoughtful treatment of the
subject:

http://www.meridianinstitute.com/reports/colonic.pdf

She might have learned of some interesting facts that could have given her
pause in her conclusions.

I've also done some of my own mental meanderings about this modality, and
I've put together my thoughts here:

http://healthforlifecoloncare.com/WhyColonics.pdf

In spite of the fact that the AMA gave Cayce the honorable title of "The
Father of Holistic Medicine", looking at what Cayce had to say about things
would probably be so far outside of the box, I doubt the wsj would touch
it.

As to the point about false claims, I found this quote to be particularly
interesting, "Claims for colonics and other forms of cleansing, Dr. Allen
says, "just play to people's fears and desire to lose weight."" Have you
seen the advertising campaigns of the pharmaceutical industry of late?

This statement "physicians began to challenge the lack of scientific
evidence and condemn some practitioners as quacks." is interesting as
well. It seems to me the physicians that discovered Helicobacter pylori as
being responsible for ulcers were labeled quacks for a while, and isn't it
funny that it has only been within the last few years the medical community
has discovered that the appendix actually does serve a very important
function and is not so useless as they had once believed. Don't get me
wrong, doctors are wonderful, but they are not infallible.

Here's another statement I find incredulous, "Some gastroenterologists
worry that colonics can wash out beneficial bacteria and create infections,
abscesses and electrolyte imbalances; there have been cases of rectal
perforations." On what peer-reviewed studies are they basing this "worry?"
I can assure you gastroenterologists themselves have been responsible for
some rectal perforations under colonoscopy. Should we throw out the
colonoscopy procedure because of this? I repeat, doctors are wonderful,
but they too can make mistakes (being human and all ;-)).

One of the few redeeming statements I found in the article is this, "Even
"natural" laxatives, such as the plants senna and cascara, can harm the
bowel, Dr. Landzberg says, ..."" This in fact has been shown in
peer-reviewed studies, and I'm grateful to see it stated.

Oh, and to your point about using a colonic for colonoscopy prep, this is
exactly what the enlightened folks in Danbury, CT are already doing. Check
out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWjxHspRKs

Cheers,
Robin
www.healthforlifecoloncare.com
www.traditionalnutrition.org
www.ppnf.org
"Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food."
--Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.)
Just be careful how you define food ;-)

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cure."
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they no less into humans of which they know nothing."
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-----Original Message-----
From: Top Squirrel [SMTP:squirrelbike1983@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 13:36
To: Colon_Hydrotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: (Colon-hydrotherapy & Relaxation) Wall St Journal article on
colon cleansing

Hey, Folks: There's an easy way to read the Wall Street Journal article.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB2000142405297020448830457443516184179253
6.html

Long-time subscriber. Went to their website and found it, read it through.
Edie has excerpted one of the few sections positive to us and what we do.
Gastropods repeat their old standard "can't help you and may harm you" and
they're so quoted there. I agree with them that rarely do you find pounds
of matter stuck to the walls. Claims to that effect do us no good. I claim
CHT benefits people because (1) It frees up the immune system, effectively
making it 3 or 4 times as powerful; (2) It stimulates production of
serotonin, a marvelous natural feelgood hormone; and the old standbys,
hydrates the bowel, tones the bowel, cleanses the bowel. Those are good but
not powerful like the first two.

Also, if gastroenterologists were to send us their patients for
precolonoscopy cleansing they could avoid all that horrible 'go-litely'
stuff that keeps them sitting on the pot for hours at a time and makes them
feel so wrung out. If they were to send them to us for that, they'd walk
away cleaned out and feeling on top of the world, and they'd love them for
it.

It would help if practitioners stopped making claims that just aren't so,
or for which there is insufficient evidence. Edie was right to mention that
point.

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Edie Webber <ediewebber@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Edie Webber <ediewebber@yahoo.com>
Subject: (Colon-hydrotherapy & Relaxation) Wall St Journal article on colon
cleansing
To: "Bowel Cleanse" <bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 6:26 AM

A lengthy article was done by the WSJ on Sept 28th
entitled: Inner Beauty: A Healthy Colon in the 'Health Journal' by Melinda
Beck.

It is worth finding and reading in full. Among the other things in the
article is the following: "Steven Horne, a past president of
the American Herbalist Guild, says use of home-cleansing products can
result in startling results. But the expelled goo shown in online
photos is most likely the mucilaginous fiber in the purging products
themselves, combined with black bile from the liver, he says. "People
do pass this stuff, but it's a myth that it's coming off the lining of
their colon."

The article quotes doctors and colon hydrotherapists as well as
'herbalists' and, as I said, is worth reading.

Edie

From Edie Webber, Author, Basic In-Home Colon Cleansing: An Illustrated
Guide
the Table of Contents is at: http://www.newhealt hresources. com/Contents1.
htm
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Tuesday, September 29, 2009

[bowelcleanse] Wall St Journal article on colon cleansing

 

A lengthy article was done by the WSJ on Sept 28th entitled: Inner Beauty: A Healthy Colon  in the 'Health Journal' by Melinda Beck.

It is worth finding and reading in full.  Among the other things in the article is the following: "Steven Horne, a past president of
the American Herbalist Guild, says use of home-cleansing products can
result in startling results. But the expelled goo shown in online
photos is most likely the mucilaginous fiber in the purging products
themselves, combined with black bile from the liver, he says. "People
do pass this stuff, but it's a myth that it's coming off the lining of
their colon."

The article quotes doctors and colon hydrotherapists as well as 'herbalists' and, as I said, is worth reading.

Edie

From Edie Webber, Author, Basic In-Home Colon Cleansing: An Illustrated Guide 
the Table of Contents is at: http://www.newhealthresources.com/Contents1.htm 
A special message from Edie:
Thanks to all who write about my health situation. Your support is wonderful! 

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Sunday, September 27, 2009

[bowelcleanse] Re: alleregies/sensitivity

 

If eating healthy is difficult it's likely that you're either allergic or addicted to something you're eating. Not uncommon at all!

I personally use Natural Cellular Defense. At the beginning I used the detox dose and after getting rid of my body burden I use a lesser amount to stay alkaline and to prevent viral particulates from forming.

You can get an overview on my website: www.detoxqueen.com (sorry about the hypey stuff--I didn't create the site). You can also email me for more detailed info and files. Like you, I have tried many methods for detoxing. This one actually fixes the problem at the root cause. Most detoxes I've tried just make you feel good for a few days but are actually redepositing toxins elsewhere--like the thyroid.

I recently did a ten day watermelon cleanse and felt fantastic every day. This would not be the case in someone who is toxic. They'd be spewing out toxins like mad and feeling sick for at least the first 3 days.

Are you getting bad food cravings?

Sharon

--- In bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com, "US" <denisesjon@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am wondering if anyone knows a good way to detox the body on a daily basis? I am trying to eat healthy but its very hard to do for me. I am also taking Dandelion root extract, milk thistle, burdock root, and a few others to help get these toxins out of my body.
>
> Any suggestions would be so great! It seems that chemicals irriate my mouth and nose alot. I have been to tons of docs with all the prescription allergy stuff and nothing has worked.
>
> Thanks
> Denise
>

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Saturday, September 26, 2009

Re: [bowelcleanse] alleregies/sensitivity

 

Hello Denise

I think Robin put it very well.

One of the best ways of getting toxins out is to stop putting toxins into your body. This means eating organic food, or at least replace the foods highest in pesticides with organinc food. Here is the list http://www.foodnews.org/

Avoid using chemicals in your home and use only natural personal care products. Providing your body has enough of the right nutrients your liver will then clear the backlog. You can help it with the dandelion root, milk thistle and burdock root but you may need a nutritional liver detox support supplement.

Have you tried taking Quercetin as a supplement? It can help prevent the release of histamine from cells. That may be what is happening in your mouth and nose.
You would need to take about 500 mg three times a day. It is not a cure but it could help relieve your symptoms. Here is some info about it. http://www.immunesupport.com/92fal004.htm

I wrote and article about general body detox which you can find on ezine articles:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Detoxification---How-to-Detox-the-Human-Body&id=500672

Hope this might help.

Best wishes

Sandy

----- Original Message -----
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To: bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:46 PM
Subject: [bowelcleanse] alleregies/sensitivity

Hello all,

I am wondering if anyone knows a good way to detox the body on a daily basis? I am trying to eat healthy but its very hard to do for me. I am also taking Dandelion root extract, milk thistle, burdock root, and a few others to help get these toxins out of my body.

Any suggestions would be so great! It seems that chemicals irriate my mouth and nose alot. I have been to tons of docs with all the prescription allergy stuff and nothing has worked.

Thanks
Denise

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[bowelcleanse] Re: alleregies/sensitivity

 

Hello Denise,
What has seemed to work the best is a regimen of daily enemas.

Go to any WALMART anywhere and get the enema bag (they call it a waterbottle for douches n enemas) near the prescription area $4.95 unbelievably cheap and great thing to have...
Use good, clean filtered water....
do a 1 quart or 1.5 quart and work toward a 2 quart enema daily.

Keep it simple....
HIgh PH enema; keep your colon clean....; eliminate the toxins..; increase your body ph (i.e. higher alkalinity; lower acidity)

achieve this by adding 1 tablespoon baking soda to 1 quart good, clean filtered water (NO FLORIDE; NO CHOLINE in water)

This will aid in your goal of healthy, allergy reduced living....

ALSO, you can get CAPSULES of acidipholus and add one capsule to each enema... this provides great FLORA (i.e. good bacteria) to your colon.

Do this daily; just like brushing your teeth .... for optimal cleanliness, health, vitality and for assisting in your detox regimen.

Remember when you detox ... the toxins need to be elimiated and during the process of elimination in your colon can be reabsorbed. Thus, the enema helps cleanse away and flush out the toxins.

Enema can be held from 5 to 10 minutes....
Peace, Love, Order and Wealth to you (REMEMBER - PLOW; use that word when negativity, doubt, fear comes to you... verbalize, internalize the word PLOW and plow thru the negativity with Peace, Love, Order {i.e. understanding quantum physics/ Order; that all is connected}, Wealth)

--- In bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com, "US" <denisesjon@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am wondering if anyone knows a good way to detox the body on a daily basis? I am trying to eat healthy but its very hard to do for me. I am also taking Dandelion root extract, milk thistle, burdock root, and a few others to help get these toxins out of my body.
>
> Any suggestions would be so great! It seems that chemicals irriate my mouth and nose alot. I have been to tons of docs with all the prescription allergy stuff and nothing has worked.
>
> Thanks
> Denise
>

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RE: [bowelcleanse] alleregies/sensitivity

 

Hi Denise,

I guess my question would be why would you want to detox on a daily basis?
Try this on...

Let's say our bodies are like our kitchens. We typically don't pull out
our refrigerators and our stoves each day. We do normal kitchen
maintenance daily, weekly, and periodically. Daily would be dishes and
such. Weekly would be a little more thorough like dusting and moving
things around on the counter tops to clean underneath. Periodically would
be moving the fridge, stove, and the other big items where "stuff"
accumulates. Now to put this in our body terms -

Daily - a good healthy elimination through the alimentary canal, plenty of
water to flush the kidneys, a period of exercise that facilitates a bit of
sweat and deep breathing.

Weekly - perhaps a day fasting

Periodically - a good systemic detox like a 3-day apple diet (ala Cayce) or
a water fast (ala Shelton).

Maybe working towards balance in these areas would be a more realistic goal
for you.

Cheers,
Robin
www.healthforlifecoloncare.com
www.traditionalnutrition.org
www.ppnf.org
"Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food."
--Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.)
Just be careful how you define food ;-)

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-- Voltaire (1694-1778)

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-----Original Message-----
From: US [SMTP:denisesjon@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 14:47
To: bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bowelcleanse] alleregies/sensitivity

Hello all,

I am wondering if anyone knows a good way to detox the body on a daily
basis? I am trying to eat healthy but its very hard to do for me. I am also
taking Dandelion root extract, milk thistle, burdock root, and a few others
to help get these toxins out of my body.

Any suggestions would be so great! It seems that chemicals irriate my mouth
and nose alot. I have been to tons of docs with all the prescription
allergy stuff and nothing has worked.

Thanks
Denise

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